INSKEEP: There are portions of his party that are turning against democracy altogether. I asked him once, what's the job of the president? He said, to protect the people. And my final conclusion is you cannot be this disconnected from the job you have. And here you have hours of him as he's dealing with the major issues of the presidency - the virus, foreign affairs, the constant business of being president. INSKEEP: He's not acting, is he? I mean, he actually feels as wounded as he says he is. He can't step back from his anger, and so. And what struck me is you hear it in his voice - the anger. He really can't see past the grievances he has about the media, about the opposition, about the investigations of him. Trump is so driven by his internal emotions and reactions. And I know Phil Rucker and Carol Leonnig, colleagues at The Washington Post - they're terrific reporters. WOODWARD: Well, he - it's one of his grievances.
INSKEEP: So what are you thinking, Bob Woodward, as the president tells you, he never writes good? WOODWARD: Because I don't think that - if they ever made up something. WOODWARD: Well, I'm going to dispute you on that. That's not a leak, Bob, that's - they made it up. You know how insulting that is to me? It's so false. I find - they write in there that I wanted to know, what exactly is Pearl Harbor? No. I mean, can you imagine - I studied Pearl Harbor. You know, the original Pearl Harbors are better than the modern ones that look like they were done by a computer. TRUMP: I have the movies memorized from the time of my kids, like the greatest movies ever. And it reported that Trump visited the scene of Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor in Hawaii, but he barely seemed to understand it. He appears to have read or learned about it. Your colleagues Phil Rucker and Carol Leonnig wrote a book about Trump. INSKEEP: Let's play a little bit of these conversations that gets a sense of how Trump makes things about himself and his resentment toward his portrayal in the media, I guess we should note here. And in the course of it, you see - as I conclude and as the audiotapes show - he did not understand his responsibilities as president. WOODWARD: This is Trump wanting to sell himself, wanting to convince me he had done all of the proper things. I did historically Black colleges and universities. (SOUNDBITE OF AUDIOBOOK, "THE TRUMP TAPES")ĭONALD TRUMP: I have done more for the Black community than any other president other than Abraham Lincoln. He plays them in an audiobook called "The Trump Tapes."
Bob Woodward has written three books about Trump, and for one of those books, Trump talked with the journalist for hours, and Woodward usually recorded the conversations. For those who have not heard enough of Donald Trump, here's an opportunity.
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